WCAG WG F2F - day #1Topic for #wai-wcagWCAG WG F2F - day #1 wendyTopic: Guideline 1.3http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/content-structure-separation- 20051014/results rscanoircrscano has left wai-wcag wendyresolution: adopt proposed definition of "programmatically determined": can be recognized by user agents, including assistive technologies, that support the technologies in the chosen baselinenote: other SC use this phrase so we have resolved to adopt this defn as our "working defn" and see if it works in other instances as well. David_MacDonaldircDavid_MacDonald has joined wai-wcag * David_MacDonald testDavid_MacDonald am I in wendyhello david - yes. see you. AndiJohn, here's an example of a "list" in the nav bar that's done with layout tables http://www-306.ibm.com/able/guidelines/index.html jslatinOFHNetIRCthanks, andi, will go look atitok, just looked at the page andi sent me, let me know when you want to talk about it AndiJohn, what about our home page? http://www.ibm.com/us/ jslatinOFHNetIRCandi, on the ibm home page i just heard jaws say "on mouseover" three times in a row. also heard a bunch of image map linksit said "on mouseOver" without associating it with anythingi don't think the layout table's the problem here though wendyL1SC2 needs more work. gv will take comments received on survey and rework for next week.L2 SC1 - gv will also try to rework this one.and l2sc2?l3 sc1 - loretta will try to rework before next weekl3sc2 - proposal from last week's discussionhttp://www.w3.org/2005/10/13-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item07 resolved to add (at last week's mtg)guide proposal at: http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Guide_to_1.3_L3_SC_2 David_MacDonaldircDavid_MacDonald has left wai-wcag wendyTopic: Guideline 1.4resolution: removing level 1 criterion for guideline 1.4. if you conform to other success criteria (1.1 and 1.3) then there are no further requirements. we're assuming that user agents should or could change color of text and background for contrast as long as the text is programmatically determined.L2SC1