(11:14:15)Topic for #wai-wcag is +1 617.761.6200 passcode 92248 ("WCAG-T") rscano (11:15:15): i've got audio problems... sh1mmer (11:15:33): type and we will read you out rscano (11:15:34): and credit is going out... i think line will go out in 2 minutes rscano (11:15:49): :) rscano (11:16:10): let me know what you need as support for the user cases and i can help u bcaldwell (11:16:55): ACTION: Tom to talk with Roberto about creating a use case for international audience. (11:16:55)RRSAgent records action 5 bcaldwell (11:17:18): other use cases needed? bcaldwell (11:17:51): Japanese use case needed? rscano (11:17:58): need other languages? i can involve IWA/HWG (we have 100 chapters worldwide) bcaldwell (11:22:07): list of translations of WCAG 1.0 - http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/OverviewTech.html#WAI-WEBCONTENT bcaldwell (11:22:24): are we happy with our use cases so far? do we need more? rscano (11:22:31): italian: there is only WCAG Guidelines, not techs (i think i will do them in nov-dec. 2003) bcaldwell (11:22:33): may be an ever-growing set bcaldwell (11:23:26): combination of use cases from Tom and Shailesh is a good start bcaldwell (11:25:21): next steps: combine these use cases and formalize from there bcaldwell (11:26:09): ACTION: Tom and Shailesh combine their lists (11:26:09)RRSAgent records action 6 bcaldwell (11:26:50): in some organizations, there are people who are responsible exclusively for web-based forms bcaldwell (11:27:06): how does this person approach the guidelines? rscano (11:30:18): end of money :) bcaldwell (11:30:30): may be possible to address this in views bcaldwell (11:31:28): concern is that customized views would actually be used more heavily (even exclusively) than guidelines themselves bcaldwell (11:32:46): there is a use case where poeple use techniques without viewing or being concerned with the guidelines bcaldwell (11:32:53): question is how much of a concern is that? bcaldwell (11:34:28): if techniques are sufficiently rigorous, it may be more important that people use them than it is that they read the guidelines (which they may not be interested in) bcaldwell (11:35:39): where can we "tempt" people into reading the guidelines in the techniques? bcaldwell (11:36:51): ACTION: Michael to summarize discussion and propose it as an agenda item for a Thursday call (11:36:52)RRSAgent records action 7 bcaldwell (11:38:13): rrsagent, bye RRSAgent (11:38:14): I see 7 open action items: RRSAgent (11:38:14): ACTION: Ben to coordinate with Loretta regarding guidelines reorganization proposals and impact on gateway techniques [1] RRSAgent (11:38:17): recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/17-wai-wcag-irc#T14-42-41 RRSAgent (11:38:19): ACTION: Tom to help out with cross-references from gateway to guidelines [2] RRSAgent (11:38:21): recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/17-wai-wcag-irc#T15-01-50 RRSAgent (11:38:23): ACTION: Michael and Tom to work on options for views and prioritize them [3] RRSAgent (11:38:25): recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/17-wai-wcag-irc#T15-04-36 RRSAgent (11:38:27): ACTION: Editor to rework gateway techniques into techniques format so that they have checklist items, titles, examples. [4] RRSAgent (11:38:30): recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/17-wai-wcag-irc#T15-07-25 RRSAgent (11:38:32): ACTION: Tom to talk with Roberto about creating a use case for international audience. [5] RRSAgent (11:38:34): recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/17-wai-wcag-irc#T15-16-54 RRSAgent (11:38:36): ACTION: Tom and Shailesh combine their lists [6] RRSAgent (11:38:37): recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/17-wai-wcag-irc#T15-26-07 RRSAgent (11:38:38): ACTION: Michael to summarize discussion and propose it as an agenda item for a Thursday call [7] RRSAgent (11:38:40): recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/17-wai-wcag-irc#T15-36-50 (11:38:41) RRSAgent has left #wai-wcag bcaldwell (11:40:47): zakim, bye (11:40:47) Zakim has left #wai-wcag rscano (11:41:40): Tom we can talk later.. when u prefer... mail me :) sh1mmer (11:42:31): Ok Roberto I will rscano (11:42:43): ciao! sh1mmer (11:42:47): caio (11:42:50) sh1mmer has left #wai-wcag (11:42:52) rscano has left #wai-wcag joeclark (11:47:52): So what'd I miss?