(11:12:01)Topic for #wai-wcag is +1 617.761.6200 passcode 92248 ("WCAG-T") (11:12:02)rscano has been promoted wendy (11:12:27): hey joe rscano (11:12:58): hi joe wendy (11:13:10): action: michael introduce use case thread (11:13:10)RRSAgent records action 3 wendy (11:13:43): collect these as part of discussion for next tuesday wendy (11:17:46): NFB excerpts: distill it? wendy (11:18:01): point out specifics rather than link to. wendy (11:19:16): gateway not formatted ala html techniques, but could be. i.e., technique/(checklist-item | examples | refs) wendy (11:19:28): distill highlights of NFB into a few techniques wendy (11:19:38): link to lots of refs wendy (11:20:31): how decide which refs to link to? lots of info out there. wendy (11:21:14): cocern about favoritism or endorsement if link to one or not another. wendy (11:21:48): s/NFB/NBA wendy (11:23:05): auxiliary references? other sources of good info. where do we stop? what about other languages? wendy (11:27:30): http://www.w3.org/2000/08/nba-manual/Overview.html wendy (11:31:06): w3c translations: http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Translation/ wendy (11:35:35): wcag 1.0 guidelines/checkpoints translated into several langs. techniques: french and japanese wendy (11:42:55): EOWG coordination issue rscano (11:43:50): we have an IWA/HWG member inside EOWG wendy (11:44:57): EOWG working on review of WCAG 2.0. likely to talk w/them about their comments. add to agenda discussion of translations and support materials. wendy (11:45:23): action: wac msg to chairs to discuss scheduling joing mtg w/EOWG (11:45:23)RRSAgent records action 4 wendy (11:48:40): action: michael ask richard about what are the impacts on localization of our documents of linking to external resources in a particular lang that we don't have control over. (11:48:40)RRSAgent records action 5 wendy (11:49:26): [off] wendy invokes jason, "we're doing well" wendy (11:56:23): in techniques, a way to encourage people to do more than the minimum? wendy (11:56:55): emphasize that once done minimum, going further sometimes isn't that much more effort. wendy (11:57:33): cross-referencing between techniques might help? wendy (11:58:16): (brainstorming about how to help get this across and if it is a good idea) rscano (11:58:56): explain what is the risk for the accessibility of a page if they don't respect other checkpoint? Eg: if you don't respect this checkpoint bla bla bla... wendy (11:59:45): use cases: will have people approaching reluctantly others enthusiastically. rscano (12:00:15): made like www.diveintoaccessibility.org ? wendy (12:00:22): consider this in design of gateway and how to accomodate both needs as well as wanting to encourage people to "do more" w/out giving them too much info that it discourages them. wendy (12:00:26): actions? (12:00:26)RRSAgent sees 5 open action items: (12:00:26)RRSAgent ACTION: wac write to lisa and geoff about directions [1] (12:00:28)RRSAgent recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/03-wai-wcag-irc#T14-15-40 (12:00:30)RRSAgent ACTION: michael ask IG about use cases for techniques [2] (12:00:32)RRSAgent recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/03-wai-wcag-irc#T15-03-04 (12:00:34)RRSAgent ACTION: michael introduce use case thread [3] (12:00:36)RRSAgent recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/03-wai-wcag-irc#T15-12-39 (12:00:38)RRSAgent ACTION: wac msg to chairs to discuss scheduling joing mtg w/EOWG [4] (12:00:40)RRSAgent recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/03-wai-wcag-irc#T15-44-52 (12:00:42)RRSAgent ACTION: michael ask richard about what are the impacts on localization of our documents of linking to external resources in a particular lang that we don't have control over. [5] (12:00:44)RRSAgent recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/03-wai-wcag-irc#T15-48-08 wendy (12:01:03): action: everyone write use cases for techniques for next week's discussion (12:01:03)RRSAgent records action 6 rscano (12:01:28): ok wendy (12:01:38): no meeting next wednesday since f2f next monday/tuesday wendy (12:01:53): next telecon is 17 sept Zakim (12:02:23): -Michael_Cooper wendy (12:02:25): zakim, bye (12:02:26) Zakim has left #wai-wcag wendy (12:02:31): RRSAgent, bye RRSAgent (12:02:32): I see 6 open action items: RRSAgent (12:02:33): ACTION: wac write to lisa and geoff about directions [1] RRSAgent (12:02:34): recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/03-wai-wcag-irc#T14-15-40 RRSAgent (12:02:36): ACTION: michael ask IG about use cases for techniques [2] RRSAgent (12:02:38): recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/03-wai-wcag-irc#T15-03-04 RRSAgent (12:02:40): ACTION: michael introduce use case thread [3] RRSAgent (12:02:41): recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/03-wai-wcag-irc#T15-12-39 RRSAgent (12:02:43): ACTION: wac msg to chairs to discuss scheduling joing mtg w/EOWG [4] RRSAgent (12:02:45): recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/03-wai-wcag-irc#T15-44-52 RRSAgent (12:02:47): ACTION: michael ask richard about what are the impacts on localization of our documents of linking to external resources in a particular lang that we don't have control over. [5] RRSAgent (12:02:52): recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/03-wai-wcag-irc#T15-48-08 RRSAgent (12:02:52): ACTION: everyone write use cases for techniques for next week's discussion [6] RRSAgent (12:02:53): recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/09/03-wai-wcag-irc#T16-00-32 (12:02:55) RRSAgent has left #wai-wcag sh1mmer (12:03:20): Ciao. (12:03:22) sh1mmer has left #wai-wcag rscano (12:03:26): ciao! rscano (12:04:08): Wendy i will send u a sample (in italian but it is clear) to show as i'm doing a "help-book" for WCAG 1.0 wendy (12:04:38): ok. i'll take a look although i doubt i'll understand much. rscano (12:05:18): yes it is only to show how is my idea of organization to explain well the documents (guidelines, techs, ...) wendy (12:14:08): ok. i look forward to looking at it. rscano (12:14:28): ciao :) wendy (12:14:37): ciao (12:14:38) rscano has left #wai-wcag (12:24:01)wendy is now known as wendyout (12:24:44) bcaldwell has left #wai-wcag